Hassan Hanafi
"Globalisation Is Western
Hegemony"
Hassan Hanafi is known to be a severe critic of
globalization. According to the professor of philosophy at the University of
Cairo the phenomenon has no positive aspects at all| Bild:
Hassan Hanafi says
that - contrary to today's Western hegemony - the Muslim empire perserved
cultures, languages and religions |
Dr. Hanafi, to begin with, what is your view on globalisation,
or rather, what does globalisation mean to you? Does it signify the
Westernisation, or even the Americanisation, of the whole
world?Hassan Hanafi: Globalisation is Western hegemony. At
the beginning of the modern age, the West challenged the entire world in a
series of events starting with the fall of Granada and the discovery of the
Western half of the world, i.e. the Americas, and what is described as
geographic discovery. Europeans acted as though the world hadn't existed before
white man arrived in the western hemisphere.
Later on, fleets of ships
embarked on journeys for the purpose of exploration from Genoa, commerce
expanded in the 17th century, Algeria was colonised in the 19th century, Britain
wiped out the Mogul empire in India and besieged the entire old world. In merely
two centuries Europe became master of the world by means of seafaring, after the
crusades in the 11th and 12th century had failed.
Globalisation is one
of the common forms of Western hegemony, not only achieved through military
action or the economy but also, the market. Therefore, after the age of blocs
came to an end in 1991 and socialist systems collapsed, capitalism emerged as
the winner. Accordingly, international capitalism was legitimised and justified
on the premise of market unity and its laws, profit, competition, etc. The group
of seven or eight industrialised nations became the hub of the world and
transformed all of Africa, Asia and Latin America into markets.
Globalisation is not just the Westernisation of the world as a concept
of dissemination from the core to the periphery. Nor is it mere Americanisation,
as the USA is now the only existing bloc which challenges the rest of the world.
The threat is actually greater because only one path, one opinion and one ideal
is being followed. And anyone who dares to defy, for example, Afghanistan, Iraq,
Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Sudan, Saudi Arabia or Yemen must expect military
aggression, either through the United Nations, or outside the United
Nations.
Globalisation is one of the forms of Western hegemony based on
the laws of the market and military power, a concept which goes back to former
imperialism.
If we accept the notion of globalisation, would we not be
able talk about Islamic globalisation - especially if we think of traditional
Islamic military campaigns or conquests and the expansion of Islamic religion
through trade? Widespread belief claims that Islam wanted to rule the world,
i.e. Islamic globalisation existed before present-day Western
globalisation.Hanafi: Frontiers have been crossed all over
the world throughout history. When Alexander the Great left Athens to conquer
Egypt with his troops, he built Alexandria and then moved on to Central Asia and
India. This was a form of Greek globalisation. But the goal was for Greek
culture to gain prevalence even outside of Greece, and to replace "barbaric"
culture of the local ethnic groups.
Pax Romana followed a similar
pattern. The Romans wanted to do the same and make the Mediterranean a Roman
sea. Then, Islam came and spread after the Persian and Byzantine wars, just as
the two major Eastern and Western powers were waning. But Islam did not want
hegemony. The conquests were not attacks or invasions that can be likened to
Alexander's campaigns, medieval crusades or recent European
colonisation.
Why was Islam different in its phase of expansion and
power in a large part of the world?Hanafi: Islam set out with
the idea of the belief in the Unity of God, meaning the whole world is equal
before one God and one principle, and therefore, equal human values,
irrespective of race or gender. Islam did not kill children or old people; it
did not destroy homes. And when the Muslim Arabs went to Egypt, the Egyptians
welcomed them as liberators. Islam was not aggressive but was liberating.
Islam preserved the cultures, languages and religions of all ethnic
groups. Whoever seeks the protection of Muslims may maintain their religion, as
the case has been with Jews, Christians, Sabians and Brahmans in the past. Even
pagans are able to live under the protection of Islam.
The system of the
Islamic religious community stipulates that Islam is a single federalist umma.
This means different ethnic groups are protected and not harassed. Different
languages, cultures, customs and traditions are preserved. There was no Islamic
hostility towards Jews and Christians in the Spanish cities of Granada, Seville,
Cordoba and Toledo. Averroes and Moses Maimonides even led religious and
philosophical discourse in Cordoba. As a result, it was the Golden Age for Jews
in Spain.
Going back to the notion of globalisation - do you make a
distinction between the USA and the West? This means: Would it be possible to
imagine Europe getting closer to the Islamic World, or the Arab World, in face
of Americanisation or inspite of Americanisation of the world? Or does the West
mean Europe and the USA together?Hanafi: I didn't say that I
don't distinguish between the West and the USA. The West is a viewpoint that
includes the US's desire for dominance in the non-European and non-American
world. This is evident in Europe's standpoint on the Palestinian, Iraqi,
Iranian, issues, and its standpoint on all other issues concerning people it
used to have ties with, meaning countries that were colonised before the US
began to follow the footsteps of traditional imperial states such as Great
Britain, France, the Netherlands, Spain and Portugal.
Now the West
itself, especially France, is raising objections to Americanisation and
globalisation. The strongest opposition to globalisation is in France since
globalisation does not merely begin as economic hegemony through the market and
its laws but through culture. The culture that goes along with globalisation;
consumption, competition, profit, and hence, American values, is spread through
globalisation, which means double standards.
A country that has signed
the World Trade Organisation's GATT agreement has no choice but to yield to the
rules of the market in a world that is not homogeneous. How can Egypt compete
with the car industry in Detroit or Japan? Take the textile industry, which is
prevalent in Egypt: After having signed the GATT agreement, Egypt tried to
export woven fabrics to the USA but the USA rejected them and sent them back.
The laws of the market are supply and demand. Can I do this when I get a car
from Detroit?
How many black Americans have been exploited? How many
human rights have been violated? I am small and weak; I am not able to assert
myself, and therefore, globalisation means double standards. The laws of the
market and the freedom of competition belong to the major powers. The minor
powers, however, are excluded from the system and turned into a market for raw
materials or for cheap labour.
Europe acts as a balance scale between
Africa, Asia and Americanisation in the world. There is a difference between
Westernisation and Americanisation. Islam has become the second religion in
Europe, and therefore, European interests are in the Southern Mediterranean.
Lives in the North and South are tied to emigration and common history. US
dominance in the name of globalisation is going to damage European interests and
the Islamic Arab World at the same time.
You said that globalisation
resulted from the demise of the Soviet Union, the second largest power in the
world!Hanafi: No, it is not the result of the Soviet Union's
demise but rather, the result of legitimisation, meaning that the collapse of
the Soviet Union provided capitalism with a new legitimacy; it furnished an
ideological foundation for world domination in the name of
globalisation.
But if the Soviet Union still existed, globalisation
wouldn't have developed the way it has, and perhaps would have taken a different
turn?Hanafi: Naturally. At that time there was the cold war,
with two blocs controlling the world, the socialist bloc and the capitalist
bloc. The world was concerned with which system would triumph over the other,
not through wars, but competition. At that time, the socialist system was
supporting all movements of liberation, and it built the dam of Aswan in Egypt.
Africa, Asia and Latin America felt that they had an ally other than Europe and
the United States of America.
Capitalism did not need to legitimise
itself since socialism was be present with its ideological power. Capitalism,
with its administrative and practical success, did not need legitimisation. But
now, after the demise of the socialist system, a new type of capitalism has
emerged, call it globalisation, global village, revolution of communication
technology, the end of history, clash of civilisations, and the pre-occupation
with matters such as Islam and Confucianism versus Judaism and Christiany for
concealing the primary interests of industrialised nations.
Globalisation is a single system within a large general system. As for
us, the focus of our concerns is diverted to other things: good governance as an
alternative to a weak, corrupt national state; civil society, creating a balance
in our lives between the rule of the state and the weakness of society;
minorities and their protection, for turning the entire area into a mosaic of
Arabs, Berbers, Kurds, Druses, Sunna and Shia, Muslims and Copts, until Israel
becomes the largest religious state in the region and takes on a new legitimacy,
differing from Herzl's 19th century ideal and political Zionism, the ideal of
promised land and the chosen people.
Now it provides legitimisation that
does not come from above, but instead, from a nation, a racist religious state.
So globalisation is just one element of a broader system on Western agenda, an
alternative agenda exported to us so that we are engrossed by the issue of
democratic change, since the West thinks that one of our problems is not the
Israeli occupation of the land, but instead the systems of rule. Thus, the issue
of national liberation and the people's rights turns into a mere ideal of human
rights.
We see fundamentalist movements spreading and increasing in
strength throughout the entire Islamic world. Do you consider this movement to
be a reaction to globalisation?Hanafi: No, the Islamist
movement started to spread before globalisation; it was a reaction to
traditional colonisation. The growth of the Islamist movement and the Islamic
awakening came hand in hand with al-Afghani and Mohammed Abduh, Rashid Rida,
Hassan al-Banna and the Muslim brothers. At the same time, the Islamic
renaissance and religious reforms began. Islam was against external colonialism
and internal oppression. The Islamist movement then began to spread more and
more when the secular ideologies of modernisation waned.
Liberal rule in
Egypt in the first half of the 20th century and Marxism in Yemen, for instance,
lost their impact and then there appeared to be return to Islam as an
alternative to the apparent weakness of secular modernisation ideologies. Then,
there was the defeat of 1967. The beginning of the resistance in Lebanon and
Palestine, the independence of the Islamic republics in the Soviet Union, the
awakening of Malaysia and Indonesia all show that the Islamist movement came
before globalisation.
However, globalisation moved the Islamist movement
to a new phase because of the need to defend home countries and the
corresponding land, and the need to defend what is sacred; especially after the
West and the United States in particular, had taken on the appearance of a new
imperialistic usurper.
A number of Islamic intellectuals have been
working on an Islamic project as an alternative to globalisation and maintain
that crime and conditions like the disease Aids etc. would diminish under the
auspices of an international Islamic system. Do you support any such
projects?Hanafi: This is a dream, it replaces ideals by hopes
and wishes. But up to now the Islamic world has not been merely about ideas, it
is a social and political reality. Scattered and weak as we are, we rely on
others for food and clothes, arms, education etc. It is perhaps a utopian dream
of the future, an alternative ideology to globalisation. The ultimate question
is, where will a bloc powerful enough emerge that threatens the United States?
The spirit of Che Guevara is far removed from everyone's minds as Latin
America in a state of social unrest and teems with crime and drug cartels.
Africa, on the other hand, is threatened by debt, civil war, desertification and
diseases, such as Aids. What remains is the Islamic Arab region, where
intellectual dynamism, preservation of identity and major issues still exist.
Perhaps Islam will be able to become the new bloc opposing the United
States of America when the socialist system comes to an end. But this is a long
way off. In the near future we have no choice but to strengthen the national
states, achieve the goals of the Palestinian, Kashmiri, Ceuta and Melilla
liberation movements, and to create a regional co-operation, a joint Arabic
market.
Egypt, Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, Iran, Nigeria formed a group
of 14 countries which has expanded to 28 countries. The group represents an
African-Asian bloc which stands against the joint European market. Hence, the
achievement of equilibrium could possible through temporary regional
co-operation and the gradual liberation of nations. Who knows, perhaps Europe
will join us? This is why Turkey wants to join the European Union, as do the
likes of Morocco, and even Egypt. But the Islamic world becoming a union capable
of competing with the West is a remote dream.
There are positive
aspects to globalisation, such as increased public awareness of international
issues, e.g. environmental protection or the opportunity of formulating
international human values and human rights. What do you think of this
phenomenon?Hanafi: This is not true. It is a fairy tale.
Globalisation has divided the world and has led to great oppression, not only in
terms of human rights but rather, the law of nations. What has globalisation
done for Palestine? What has globalisation done for Kashmir? What did
globalisation do when Morocco demanded its rights and stated its case against
Spanish imperialism in the Ceuta, Melilla and the Laila island issues? What did
globalisation do for Gibraltar? This British-Spanish occupation, etc.? Human
rights? And what about the rights of nations?
Why just human rights,
which are based on a solely Western perception of humans, meaning that the
individual possesses a right of his own? What about an ethnic group's right to
self-determination? In 1977 we announced the Universal Declaration of Peoples
Rights in Algeria after the national liberation. As a matter of fact, I don't
think there is anything special about globalisation. Who is going to benefit
from the world as a global village? Rwanda, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia? It is
going to remain a European interest.
And what do you think of the
dissemination of Western technology (PCs and media) and its arrival in the Arab
or the Third World??Hanafi: It is simple technology, not the
advanced technology. Advanced technology will remain in the hands of Western
forces. Information is power.
So what can be done? You talked about
regional co-operation, the creation of a market between the Arab states and
Third-World states. Is this an alternative to
globalisation?Hanafi: No, my objective would be a
diversification of the blocs. The world ought to consist of many blocs. Who
actually supports globalisation except for the major multinational corporations?
Look at the anti-globalisation demonstrations in Seattle, Genoa, Paris, London
and Prague. They were all demonstrations in the West. This is going to be a
European future completely opposed to globalisation, just as the Islamic Arab
world is.
Interview: Larissa Bender, Mona
NaggarTranslation: Martina Häusler© Qantara.de
2003
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